#110545: "Show the setup card and give more setup information in the game options"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if any.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Please explains what you wanted to do, what you do and what happened
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• Which was the game action you wanted to do?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• What do you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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• At which step of the game did the problem occurs (what was the current game instruction)?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
-
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
-
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
-
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v120
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I agree that player's should need to open the rulebook just to see what the setup consists of, but I don't want to go so far as to start making lists of items underneath the pulldown.
This information is well-suited for the How to Play section, which is a user-editable wiki. That section is also linked to prominently from BGA's new game start page. Meanwhile, if you have succinct changes for the pull-down descriptions, I'm happy to make those too, but it's going to need to be a summary in a few words rather than a list. Just follow up here with rewording suggestions and I'll reopen.
Note that I don't mean the text in the pull-down menus (those have to stand on 1 line) but the text just below once the options has been selected.
For the French version of the wiki that is.
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