#158400: "Game progression start at 50% and ends at 65%, but should start at 0% and end at 100%"
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At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• Please explains what you wanted to do, what you do and what happened
• What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Which was the game action you wanted to do?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• What do you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• At which step of the game did the problem occurs (what was the current game instruction)?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • What is your browser?
Safari v18.3
Report history
1. At game start, progression should be 0%.
2. The wolfes can only move forward. That limit each wolf to a maximum of 7 moves. The wolf player has 4 pawns, so they can move not more than 28 times,
3. The sheep can move forward and backward. The does not limit the number of moves. But as both players move one after the other, the sheep player can not have more turns that the wolf player (plus 1 move, if the sheep player is the starting player). So, there could not be more than 57 moves in a single game. => Each turn should increase the progress by at least 1.75 (which is 1/57).
4. At the end of the game, the progress should be set to 100%. This should be done when the winner is announced. Note, that the game announces the winner, as soon as it is obvious that the sheep can not be blocked any more, even so the official win condition has not been met.
That would be a simple calculation of progression. It would cause a big step for the last turn of the game, but it at least takes into account how many tuns are possible if both players behave as if they need to do as much moves as possible. (Not sure, if you could detect situations, where black gets stuck and cannot move all 4 black pawns to the last line of the board.)
1. The first version of the game was using a 0% progress at start, but I was asked to change to 50% at start like other BGA abstract games (chess or something like that) in order to let players CONCEDE as fast as possible.
(See ticket #101827 : boardgamearena.com/bug?id=101827.)
2+3. Yes it is used to compute the progress from 50% to 100%
4. To analyze
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