#18199: "Swiss tournament pairing improvement: color selection (hive, chess)"
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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Google Chrome v81
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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Google Chrome v81
• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v81
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This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v81
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v81
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
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For example, in this tournament Frasco has all 4 games as white and pcapella has all 4 games black boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=106569
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