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#45143: "Very bad dice programming, doubles after doubles"

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backgammon #188100919

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18. Jul 2021 19:39 • MarkusRoundhousekick • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

It's not just the last game, it is often, very often.
So many other people tell teh same.

#188100919
This was the last game and that isn't fun. Do kids programm your dice?

27. Apr 2023 13:07 • gennstone • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

This report should be combined with report 48641 which already has some votes too, they are similar reports.

9. May 2023 07:10 • krexster • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

I don't have table #s, but I will no longer play Backgammon due to the doubles issue. My game on 5/8/23 ended with my opponent rolling five sets of doubles, including double-6s (twice!) while I only rolled doubles once, double 3's. Neither of us sent an opponent's piece back to the start and I lost by nearly 50 pips. I've won 1-2 lopsided games like this, but lost so many more than that. The doubles in this game are too often, lop-sided, and create a horrible game experience.

6. Jun 2023 18:19 • 1skeezicks • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

I just completed a game where my opponent got double 6s four times in a row. Almost an impossibility. I've also had games recently where I've had doubles nine times in one game.

6. Jun 2023 18:36 • 1skeezicks • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Table #383971575

Lots of doubles and three sets in a row to close out a mostly competitive game in an uncompetitive manner.

7. Jun 2023 23:00 • Mrgn • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

#384968658
Ce programme a vraiment besoin d'être révisé
7 doubles contre 2. et je perds contre une débutante ? à plusieurs reprises ?

18. Jun 2023 13:39 • 1skeezicks • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

I agree, PLEASE fix the randomness of the dice rolls. Also so many doubles at the end of a game. Happens all of the time. I like playing, but this frustration has me considering finding an alternate site. Reference Table #387767844. Both players had 2-3 sets of doubles in a row at the very end of the game.

18. Jun 2023 16:23 • Mrgn • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

#388375824
5 doubles pour mon adversaire, dont trois dès le début, et aucun de mon côté de toute la partie.
Aucun plaisir. J'ai concédé.
Cette programmation est ridicule et très critiquable.
SVP Mettre une priorité à sa révision

19. Jun 2023 04:43 • 1skeezicks • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Table #387268599. The game ended with double 6s, 3s, 5s, 3s all in a row. Does anyone look at these reports? Doubles at the end of games is a crazy problem.

6. Jul 2023 08:24 • Mrgn • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

#394051973

8 pour mon adversaire contre 3
Inéquitable
Mais surtout lassant

Et cela, partie après partie.
Trop de doubles enlève le plaisir du jeu
Revoir la programmation !!

Combien de demandes en ce sens faut-il faire ?

8. Jul 2023 23:52 • Mrgn • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

BIS de tous les rapports antérieurs

9. Jul 2023 05:25 • Dave0112 • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Yes, the doubles occurs too frequently in this, in the law of averages it should really only occur 1 out of every 6 rolls, but i continually see MOST games have about 20-25% of the rolls are doubles, well above what they should be..It is just so frustrating

13. Aug 2023 17:31 • antagog • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

This has happened to me as well.
In three separate games, after I roll a 5-5, the opponent also rolls 5-5.

18. Oct 2023 13:08 • lol71 • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Too Many doubles, uninteresting Game.
Play # 429469358

23. Oct 2023 05:13 • maloree • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

bad rolls over and over agin went from 260 to 130 lost last35 won 4 to many doubles at end of game cant win i quit this look at my chart its impossible

23. Oct 2023 17:13 • maloree • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

never beat a 300 point player pip is Evan or im ahead at time of bear off player always gets 3 or 4 doubles i never get one look at the charts u will see

23. Oct 2023 17:16 • maloree • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

analyze this it happens way to mutch

24. Oct 2023 09:01 • maloree • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

9 to 1 doubles i cant win want my money back

6. Nov 2023 14:14 • lol71 • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Table#436403270 many double, no pleasure to play,

24. Dec 2023 13:49 • Ged54 • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

What's to add. These complaints have been adding up for a very long time and all we get is "not analyzed yet".
The problem is obvious so get to it if you care about your players.

25. Jan 2024 22:58 • Ged54 • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Backgammon game #466848395
30% of the rolls in this game were doubles with 2/3 of them being given to one player.
I recently received a message from BGA claiming that all is well with the dice because the stats from over 5 million rolls look good. Of course they do, numbers on that scale will almost always look good. But our problem is not with the large scale numbers. It is with the small scale aberrations like the ones that happened in this game.
In dice anything that can happen should happen, but only in proper proportion to probability. These aberrations are too common for the BGA dice to be considered accurate.

26. Jan 2024 10:51 • bidulpik • Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high:

I'm sorry about your feeling.
The probability to have double is 1/6
It is 16% of double rolls in a game.
You're oponent has 30% of double in a game, it is a statistic of 1/3. Just the double.
Some people win twice a loto.
That's the unfair of statistic.

26. Jan 2024 10:56 • bidulpik • Developers think that it is not a good idea or that the cost/benefit ratio is too high:

The probability to have 100% double is not null.
I should have already happened due to the tremendous amount of games already played.

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