#62426: "Punish intentional stalling of turn-based games in arena"
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The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• Please explains what you wanted to do, what you do and what happened
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Google Chrome v97
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The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer • What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer • What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• Which was the game action you wanted to do?
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• What do you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• At which step of the game did the problem occurs (what was the current game instruction)?
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer • What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The reported game was stalled in the very final stages by one of the players at the table during the last 2 weeks via use of holiday jokers. Multiple other games were stalled by the same player during that time, as was also indicated in discord Agricola community chat.
Although we do not know for sure if games was stalled on purpose or not, there are certain indicators that it wasn't a good sportsmanship behavior after all. During this supposed "holiday time", player still played other games (non-arena) and also participated in kicking players in their arena games.
I strongly believe that people who start games should feel strong obligation to finish those games and should not abuse holiday joker time to delay ranked games, while enjoying playing other games. It is disrespectful to other players and can also affect their rankings. The purpose of holiday jokers is to allow people to be away from gaming altogether, not to give additional times to specific games - or BGA believes otherwise?
Holiday jokers can in theory allow an abusive mechanism, where a player could first player super fast, and then change to very slow mode, but still be not the slowest player overall in the game. Therefore escape loosing points for 3th or 4th place games.
As a community we can of course red-thumb. But better solution would be to discourage stalling or even implement anti-stalling mechanisms. Forbidding abuse of holiday jokers sounds like one of the easy solutions.
Best,
Buldozer • What is your browser?
Google Chrome v97
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